The Lack Of Unity In The Current Star Wars Trilogy - An On Stream Rant

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  • Chris Bratton
    Chris Bratton  2 months back

    Respectfully, I disagree with the concept that TLJ had a good/bad dichotomy. I think the movie was generally bad, but I will admit that it has some great ideas.

    I have said since release, that if Johnson has decided to kill Snoke without furthering his character/background, -OR- decided to drop the “Rey is nobody” bomb, it would have made for a fun, unexpected twist. Unfortunately, he decided to do both of those things, as well as “killing” Luke, and giving Leia force abilities. When put together, all those things create a confusing narrative that had little foundation in previous Star Wars ideology, which confuses the audience more than anything.

    • Blake Chisley
      Blake Chisley  3 months back

      And as far as your flippant response to how the original trilogy characters were treated you have to understand that people who actually grew up with the original Star Wars actually went to the theaters actually bought the toys actually have been loving this all our lives we are now he dultz we're not old adults we are in our primes as adults we did not wait 30 years to see Luke Skywalker be treated like that and if you're fine with it okay guess what these weren't Your Heroes these were our heroes so take that in consideration when you speak about Star Wars fans. You got to be careful how you care down somebody's past or somebody's Legacy people always fight you to the death on that s*** it's a it's the lesson that you need to learn what's new we all have to learn you can't tear down people's Heroes and expect them to like it if you don't care will then you shouldn't be doing these type of shows kid trying to make a buck off Star Wars

      • Blake Chisley
        Blake Chisley  3 months back

        Get ready for your last Jedi love to get some verted with this next shitstorm of a movie basically rise of Skywalker translation we're sorry for what we did to Luke Skywalker in fact everything Rian Johnson did in the last movie please come back please borrow merchandise please watch a movie more than once please

        • Blake Chisley
          Blake Chisley  3 months back

          You could have broke free of that by just doing a new Trilogy you didn't have to lie to the original trilogy fans lucasfilm and tell them that the original cast is back to finish the Skywalker Saga and then not make it about the Skywalkers and make it about characters that nobody has anything invested in if they would have just come out and done new movies from the outset you wouldn't have this Schism at all you got to blame lucasfilm it all comes from the top

          • Blake Chisley
            Blake Chisley  3 months back

            You said Ford vision you didn't have a clue what he was f****** doing what about the bad guy who stutters Rose Tico slave children that movie was worse than Spaceballs matter of fact you should probably go watch Spaceballs you got a lot to learn kid your opinions are very interesting

            • Blake Chisley
              Blake Chisley  3 months back

              That was not Lando Donald Glover is not anything compared to Billy Dee Williams just like the other guy couldn't hold a candle to Harrison Ford you have to understand Billy Dee Williams and Harrison Ford when they were younger were considered two of the most handsome men in Hollywood Donald Glover is not one of those guys bub and plus Donald Glover's a full 5 inches shorter than Billy Dee Williams and I think the guy who played the new han Solo's about 5ft 7 Harrison Ford and Billy Dee Williams way more charismatic way better actors than Donald Glover and whoever the hell played solo

              • Blake Chisley
                Blake Chisley  3 months back

                Rogue one was garbage I would have loved to have watch the real cut because somebody had to come in and fix the movie it does not even follow what was supposed to happen because it was Rebel spies who got the Death Star plans that wasn't no Battlestar storm the beach these were spies Imperial spies who did the who transmitted the transmission to Princess Leia on the Death Star

                • Blake Chisley
                  Blake Chisley  3 months back

                  Star Wars fans did not attack Jar Jar Binks it was the media who attacked Jar Jar Binks and little Jake Lloyd it wasn't Star Wars fans there was internet was not as strong in 1999 like it is today in 2019 totally different situation and you can't call all people terrible because you're spreading propaganda that you are scared because you don't like the prequels you got prequel 8 because you don't understand Common Sense the prequels tell you everything that's going on if you can't understand that cuz you don't not a cognitive thinker the prequels make sense in the beginning of a story is Never As Good As the end of the story the beginning sets up the end so coarse the beginning of any story is going to be a little slow if you understand how to put a story together most stories go that way

                  • Blake Chisley
                    Blake Chisley  3 months back

                    Shut up dude I was actually around for that Jar Jar Binks nobody watch that movie I thought they were talking about black people speaking as an African American only the medium who have always hated George Lucas come out to attack that nobody was screaming that the gungan rabbit looking race was black so you can stop with that nonsense

                    • Blake Chisley
                      Blake Chisley  3 months back

                      I love how you're going to sit here and disrespect George Lucas he's not a good director and why are you watching and why are you trying it most likely monetized based off of stuff he's created you kids these days way off base so disrespectful and you don't understand a thing and you should be thankful he should be thanking people like George Lucas people with real imaginations yeah he went maybe too far with the prequels but the prequels didn't kill the franchise The Last Jedi hurt the intellectual property which is Star Wars and it might not ever recover from that

                      • Blake Chisley
                        Blake Chisley  3 months back

                        There is no plan I don't know why you like Finn they portrayed him as a coward the only janitor and space get out of here they ruin Poe Andrei there's nothing to like about Ray a woman in boys clothing no explanation for her powers no understanding nothing makes sense in these movies the fights the battles the lightsaber dueling I have not seen one decent lightsaber duel no appendages have been chopped off nothing is going on where C3PO where is artoo-detoo why are the Rebels the resistance when the initially beat the empire in the first place this Star Wars Trilogy all they do is ask questions but they have no real payoffs

                        • Blake Chisley
                          Blake Chisley  3 months back

                          The Last Jedi was awful because the Star Wars villains are made incompetent so the story can continue the movie should have been over technically in the first 3 minutes when the first order arrives seeing them evacuate instead of firing all their Star Destroyers at the base at the s*** that they're all transporting to to escape it just fire at the base if they would have fired it both targets movie is over the script was awful I don't see what you like about this movie because anybody that's ever been involved in the military or understands tactics of war the Empire are bumbling idiots and that was never the case in the last six movies and Jar Jar Binks has a better story arc then these new Star Wars characters who make no sense. I don't understand anything you're trying to achieve and now they're just going to bring back the emperor so kylo and Rey can team up together to defeat him totally disrespecting everything that come before see the prequels my friend the story is about Emperor Palpatine's rise to become the ruler of the Galaxy

                          • Blake Chisley
                            Blake Chisley  3 months back

                            Tell me what he did that was so new other than destroying the fighting the dogfights he did nothing new the only thing new and fresh was he ruined Luke Skywalker's character and Luke Skywalker has no real effect on the story of his own Saga Rose Tico had more screen time than Luke Skywalker I'd love to have a serious conversation with you because you don't really like that movie either you like it or you don't you don't like this movie stop trying to make up stuff to make yourself sound smarter and stop trying to make the movie more in-depth than what it was he just ripped off scenes from Jedi Empire switch them around added a stupid Casino subplot and then killed Luke Skywalker in editing

                            • Blake Chisley
                              Blake Chisley  3 months back

                              They ruined the Jedi they ruined it bub the Jedi are great the Sith are great to have the greatest force-user left on the universe to not want to be a Jedi is bad for box-office and it's bad for this franchise because whether you like it or not the most popular character in the Star Wars universe is Luke Skywalker it's not Darth Vader it'll never be kylo and damn sure will never be re and that was the biggest mistake they've made with these movies if Luke would have been a Jedi from the outset and just went along and helped Ray and trade Ray and then possibly died in battle instead of dying a coward's death nobody would be complaining about Star Wars all the original trilogy fans wanted was to see their Heroes be who they are and circumventing that is stupid

                              • Blake Chisley
                                Blake Chisley  3 months back

                                Kylo Ren is a psychopath he is not good he killed his father and led the attack on his mother
                                The anybody that likes these new characters especially the kylo character probably needs psychiatric help if you think that that's a good hero or anti-hero doesn't make any sense and they ruined kylo by having him lose to that girl in the first movie

                                • Blake Chisley
                                  Blake Chisley  3 months back

                                  You like last Jedi lol
                                  Ok I'm outta here luke being a quiter wrong kylo is awful
                                  He's not a real bad guy he got beat up by a girl who had never touched or knew about a lightsaber know how can your villain the new villain of this franchise which is a rip off of Darth Vader / Revan look you're obviously new to Star Wars and if you didn't like the prequels but you liked anything in the Last Jedi I question your ability to be speaking on anything Star Wars

                                  • Blake Chisley
                                    Blake Chisley  3 months back

                                    Tfa was 🗑 and tlj was 💩
                                    Prequals way better story line.
                                    Make better semse and dose not hurt the universe

                                    • jstuckless
                                      jstuckless  3 months back

                                      Jim, are you interested in seeing movies surrounding Grand Admiral Thrawn at all? That's really all I want to see from the Star Wars universe. If they ever do it I'll be so happy. (provided it's done like Rogue One)

                                      • Jim Davis
                                        Jim Davis   3 months back

                                        I think I’d like some sort of a mix between what we have and the Thrawn Trilogy. Thrawn and Pellieon (sp?) are great, as is the idea that the empire skulked away and needed to rebuild while the rebellion became the government. But I prefer the treatment of Han Luke and Leia being sort of broken and imperfect and passing the torch onto new characters as well as Kylo Ren.

                                    • Merit Bevity
                                      Merit Bevity  3 months back

                                      Last Jedi was horrible. Sorry Davis.

                                      • Jake korach
                                        Jake korach  3 months back

                                        Naw the prequels are better than these. This trilogy has pretty much been a rehash of the original.

                                        • Kevin
                                          Kevin  3 months back

                                          Jim D CENSOR!

                                          • Nathaniel Thomas
                                            Nathaniel Thomas  3 months back

                                            The last jedi was terrible tho...but it had some great things. It had a lot of potential but fell very short.

                                            • Nathaniel Thomas
                                              Nathaniel Thomas  3 months back

                                              Also i wish people told johnson no but meh here we are. still hoping the rise of skywalker will be better

                                          • DRAGOTH BELMONT
                                            DRAGOTH BELMONT  3 months back

                                            PREQUELS DON'T EXIST'
                                            psff FUCK YOU
                                            there is no a more FAKE SW fan than the one who doesn't at the very least respects the values of the prequels
                                            Anyway i got a shitty vibe about this one right from the start

                                            • Spencer Hofstee
                                              Spencer Hofstee  3 months back

                                              The reason why The Last Jedi was a travesty is because Luke was all wrong. Luke is full of hope no matter how dark the situation. And he would NEVER have even considered harming his nephew. He has always believed that Good can overcome evil. That's why he was able to redeem his father.

                                              • Spencer Hofstee
                                                Spencer Hofstee  3 months back

                                                Bro saying the prequels don't exist it's harsh bro, I love Qui-gon. And the way they built Obi-wan i think held true to his character in the original trilogy. I think people have a hard time because we all knew where it was going to end.

                                                • Kraig Smith-Daniels
                                                  Kraig Smith-Daniels  3 months back

                                                  We need more of these please lol

                                                  • xtremev1
                                                    xtremev1  3 months back

                                                    Well the reason they're double backing is cause 8 was so badly recieved. 7 set us up for expectations, none of which were met in 8

                                                    • Anthony Menzer
                                                      Anthony Menzer  3 months back

                                                      I hated most of the Last Jedi quite a bit, but not as much as I hated the toxic reactions from some of the fanbase.

                                                      • KaiokenComplete
                                                        KaiokenComplete  3 months back

                                                        There isn't even a good star wars movie. Revenge of the Sith is probably the best minus the corny dialogue, followed by Rogue One. It is then a sharp decline to the next film.

                                                        • Stephen Bell
                                                          Stephen Bell  3 months back

                                                          I would absolutely love a series of critiquing every mcu movie in this style, starting with Iron Man. Just off the cuff, "Oh and here's another thing," "Personally, [Movie Title] was terrible in my opinion and here's why..." It suits your channel for sure.

                                                          • Jon W
                                                            Jon W  3 months back

                                                            Can’t argue any of your points, still excited, but it looks like they are playing it safe again. Star Wars is tough, indeed.

                                                            • S. A. Hellenbrand
                                                              S. A. Hellenbrand  3 months back

                                                              Loved how dynamic Kylo Ren was becoming in Last Jedi, so i agree on many of your points

                                                              • Jordan Rutledge
                                                                Jordan Rutledge  3 months back

                                                                Last Jedi was barely watchable honestly, I think if you look back in the abstract, the stuff happening with Kyle Ren and Rey is exciting, but minute to minute the movie is just awful. Nothing happening between the First Order and the Resistance escape ship was worth watching.

                                                                • Jordan Rutledge
                                                                  Jordan Rutledge  3 months back

                                                                  The prequels are highly underrated, very flawed but also filled with real meaningful moments, unlike the new movies which did not put in the work of building meaning for the payoff moments. Snoke dies, who cares, we don’t know who he is. Rey saves the day, but she’s never failed at anything so it’s not clear what her challenges are

                                                                  • Jordan Rutledge
                                                                    Jordan Rutledge  3 months back

                                                                    Worth noting that the prequels have some hollow characters and moments, but get to piggy back and the meaning put in by the original series. The new movies fail to do that by breaking the continuity entirely

                                                                • gameboard1
                                                                  gameboard1  3 months back

                                                                  Ever since "The Force Awakens" I've been excited for them to finish this trilogy, not because I think the movies are awesome 10/10's and I wanna see more, not because I think they are stinkers not worth your while so get it over with already, but because I wanna see what they do with the universe without having to live up to the expectations that are built in when you have well known characters! Having all these well known Characters brings certain expectations with them and I wanna see what they do when they don't have any expectations to shackle them and have the writers create new and interesting characters/stories!

                                                                  • DerMeisterXZ
                                                                    DerMeisterXZ  3 months back

                                                                    The impression I got from the beginning of Force Awakens is that there is a New Republic in control, but there is a significant fascist creep from the First Order that the government is not taking seriously, and that's why Leia started the Resistance. That said, I almost totally agree with you on The Last Jedi stuff; I think it had some of the highest highs in the whole series, and I even liked the Casino scenes for the most part, even though I thought the movie had some issues with the pacing and structural editing in general. But I am really anxious about Episode Nine, because I am afraid JJ is going to double down on all his bullshit mystery boxes, and he's well known for being terrible at ending things.

                                                                    • MissC
                                                                      MissC  3 months back

                                                                      I really liked this video, Jim. I liked that you were able to state your concerns for the new trilogy going forward while still being able to keep your perspective on what parts of the series so far you do like.

                                                                      • Kudrin2653
                                                                        Kudrin2653  3 months back

                                                                        Enjoyed hearing your view point of the star wars universe.

                                                                        • Gabriel Nicholas
                                                                          Gabriel Nicholas  3 months back

                                                                          I feel the exact same way about TFA as you do. I loved it at first and then it turned out to be average. Just a fun movie. I don't like TLJ at all. I find nothing redeemable about it. But at the same time, I can see why people would like it and why you hold it with such high praise. The Rise of Skywalker is going to end with Kylo being redeemed and the first entry of The Journal of Whills will be written from the info inside of R2-D2. The words "A long time ago in a galaxy far far away..." will be written and the last shot is going to be R2-D2.

                                                                          • Eighty Kakes
                                                                            Eighty Kakes  3 months back

                                                                            Disagree about your take on the Last Jedi, but thanks for the post.

                                                                            • mjmoore87
                                                                              mjmoore87  3 months back

                                                                              Anyone that doesn't think they ruined Luke Skywalker's character just isn't a fan, at least not one with any intelligence.

                                                                              • Joseph Ponticello
                                                                                Joseph Ponticello  3 months back

                                                                                could not agree more

                                                                              • mjmoore87
                                                                                mjmoore87  3 months back

                                                                                @Brian Laws man, you sure are dumb. Have fun with that!

                                                                              • Brian Laws
                                                                                Brian Laws  3 months back

                                                                                mjmoore87 - You clearly don’t understand what an opinion is. Get some perspective and realize that this is all subjective. Maybe ponder the irony of you insulting other people’s intelligence when you barely even understand what you’re typing.

                                                                              • mjmoore87
                                                                                mjmoore87  3 months back

                                                                                @Brian Laws nah, it's not an opinion that they ruined the character.

                                                                              • Brian Laws
                                                                                Brian Laws  3 months back

                                                                                mjmoore87 - True, who disagrees with your opinions is a probably just an idiot.

                                                                            • TandemTuba
                                                                              TandemTuba  3 months back

                                                                              People say the movies feel artificial, but really the hate feels artificial. Nerds, in general, like having something to be angry and scream into the void about even if it is their favorite franchise. We see it all the time in Magic. The movies are good, not world shatteringly amazing, but they sure aren't the garbage people would have you believe.

                                                                              Tl;dr - No one hates Star Wars more than Star Wars fans.

                                                                              • DerMeisterXZ
                                                                                DerMeisterXZ  3 months back

                                                                                People are just mad that TLJ wasn't the movie THEY wanted. It's fine that they don't like it, but they claim that everything they dislike is "bad writing." Just admit it wasn't for you and move on.

                                                                            • Francesco Gulisano
                                                                              Francesco Gulisano  3 months back

                                                                              These movies feel a bit too artificial and heartless, like they just wanted to make Star Wars movies, like you said
                                                                              Also, Rogue one was very good because it had a lot of major character, but only in the background, it only had one lightsaber and no jedis. It was in the same universe, but it was something completely new, without breaking with the established setting

                                                                              • 920mario
                                                                                920mario  3 months back

                                                                                How do you not know who is directing the third one smh

                                                                                • Stephen Hentges
                                                                                  Stephen Hentges  3 months back

                                                                                  Hot Take: Rouge One is the best Star Wars movie.

                                                                                  • Joel Dykman
                                                                                    Joel Dykman  3 months back

                                                                                    Its alright. The first act is boring, but the second and third are on par with any of the trilogy movies.

                                                                                  • SillyGooseProduction
                                                                                    SillyGooseProduction  3 months back

                                                                                    The last hour is the best star wars movie and I could watch that on a loop

                                                                                  • rene ziesig
                                                                                    rene ziesig  3 months back

                                                                                    its a retcon that makes sense

                                                                                  • Jim Davis
                                                                                    Jim Davis   3 months back

                                                                                    Stephen Hentges I don’t think this take is particularly hot, Rouge One is amazing

                                                                                • jeff elliott
                                                                                  jeff elliott  3 months back

                                                                                  I think rise of skywalker will be about kylo’s rise to becoming the emperor.

                                                                                  • Kyle Bennett
                                                                                    Kyle Bennett  3 months back

                                                                                    I loved hearing your commentary on the new trailer and at some point in the video I heard you say you can go through each Marvel movie and tear it apart, talking about all the parts you liked and didn’t like, I’d love to hear that. I’m also a very large Marvel fan and a very large Star Wars fan, and I agree a lot with what you said and very much enjoyed hearing it. Let’s hear it about the Marvel series now!

                                                                                    • Lindsay Scherer
                                                                                      Lindsay Scherer  3 months back

                                                                                      Good video! I just want to see it done well. Take an idea and just do it well.